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Maritz

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I was gifted a 82 GD300 LWB, but the owner that gave it to me said its veen standing at the mechanic for over 15 years. I contacted the mechanic and he said he pushed the car out of his shop about 6 or 8 years ago and has no idea where the car is now. I have the original Natis documents. Any suggestions?
 

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Leovans

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That car has probably been stripped for parts long ago. Sorry but you've been gifted papers.
It's worth a shot to give Trevor a shout, maybe he ended up with the chassis.
Or scour facebook marketplace for gelandewagens without papers.
Good luck with your search.
 

Maritz

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That car has probably been stripped for parts long ago. Sorry but you've been gifted papers.
It's worth a shot to give Trevor a shout, maybe he ended up with the chassis.
Or scour facebook marketplace for gelandewagens without papers.
Good luck with your search.
Yeah I am not very optimistic about finding the car.
 

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It will be a nightmare getting it back on the system then. On the other hand, if he does, it might turn up somewhere if the police impounded it.
It has a registration certificate , so it is already and will still be on the system , biggest headache will be coughing up with the licence arrears
 

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After enough years it is removed from eNatis.
The red papers are also a problem and you would need the original owner to request a duplicate which would be the new papers if it's still on eNatis.
 

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Do what do you all think? Should I register as stolen?
If the registered owner didnt sell it or give the shop permission to, I'd say yes. Unless it falls in that dodgy timeframe that mechanics used to claim ownership of a vehicle "for unpaid storage fees" or similar, they claimed to be entitled to take the vehicle and do as they please. Sell or break for parts etc. Not sure if that was always done through proper channels but then there would have to be a paper trail.
 

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Do what do you all think? Should I register as stolen?

Why? I'm not sure you even know that the car was stolen. Just because someone gave you papers for a car doesn't make you the owner. From the facts you describe, it appears that the owner had, in fact, abandoned the vehicle.

In our Roman Dutch common law, an abandoned thing may be claimed by whomever wants it.
 

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If you say so. Then don't let me stop you reporting it stolen. In my view you still don't know whether is was actually stolen, only that it is no longer where the donor left it. It's also unclear whether the car still exists. If it didn't exist when the owner gave you the (invalid) registration document, then it never became yours.
 
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