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Gelandewagen Spares for Africa

LHD G

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#21
Hi,

So now I have the vehicle back from Durban, but who can you recommend for mechanical- and body repairs in Cape Town? Although I didn't experience any major issues on the drive back from Durban to Cape Town, I did have enough time to know I need someone with a lot of knowledge and experience to get this G-wagen back to the perfect original condition.

Regards
Pieter Kroon
Hi Pieter

What suburb are you in , There are a few knowledgeable guys in Cape Town who owns G Wagons tho all only kinda do their own repairs but also always eager to help if you wanted to work on your own G ,
Why not arrange to show that extraordinary G over a weekend and get some good advice as well

If your up to it I am sure we can get a few guys together to share info and tips
send me a pm and i will set something up

regards
Greg
 

Antony

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#22
Congratulations Pieter. There seem to be quite a few helpful folk in Cape Town. Good luck with the repairs and restoration.

Regards
Antony
 
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#24
I thought it best to first take it to Mercedes for a good check-up before I do anything and I was willing to pay for a first good service. I did however not expect the attached proposal/quote especially the R 69,000 for a replacement gearbox - see quote below:


The service & service related items (wear & tear) = R 8,600.00 inclusive of VAT
- Engine oil
- Oil filter
- Air filter
- Diesel filter
- Differential oils
- Brake fluid
- Antifreeze
- Wiper blades
- V-belt (fan belts)
- Head light bulb

“Jumping” out of 5th gear, Gearbox needs to be renewed, as there is no internal parts available, we suspect a syncro or selector fork = R 69,000.00 Including VAT.

Brakes: Inspected brake shoes, pads & discs, still in very good condition.

Suspension parts
- Shock absorbers rusted, especially at rear & slightly weak = R 12,868.50 Including VAT.
- Track rod & Drag link ball joints worn = R 8,854.75 including VAT (wheel alignment to be done after repairs)
- Wheel alignment = R 1,313.70 including VAT
- Steering box is leaking oil – requires a gasket kit = R 6,010.00 including VAT
- Both front axle housing joints leaking oil = R15,582.85 including VAT

Wiring repair at rear of vehicle * Electrical system check * = R 5,000.00 including VAT
- Replace coolant temperature sensor = R 380.35 including VAT (part only) Labour above.

Compression check = R 335.00 Inclusive of VAT
- Thermostat housing leaking = R 2,650.00 Including of VAT

Injectors to be removed & sent away for assessment (sublet repair)
- Removal & installation of injectors only = R 905.00 including VAT
- Estimate is subject to stripping.

Non- starting at times: Bad contact within ignition = R 3,300.00 including VAT
- Ignition to be renewed (tumbler with lock) & key
- The following documentations are required when ordering the above-mentioned.
- A certified copy of owner’s ID document with original stamp is required on the front.
- A certified copy of the vehicle’s registration certificate with original stamp is required on the front.


Report:
- Washer sprayers not working
- Reverse lights not working(suspect wiring repair as mentioned)
- Winch/cable faulty. Waiting on parts department to supply part numbers and prices
- Vehicle idling uneven on start up in the mornings: We need to renew the filters first (refer service), and assess the vehicle from there onwards.

Please note that most of the parts we need to order from Germany.


Any comments since I want to restore this as good as possible and I am willing to spend some reasonable money on the vehicle to get it back in mechanical sound condition. Not sure though if I should have all work done at the dealership. I also went to a gearbox specialist where he recommended not to go with the dealership, but first have it checked out independently.
Any advise.

Pieter

What suburb are you in , There are a few knowledgeable guys in Cape Town who owns G Wagons tho all only kinda do their own repairs but also always eager to help if you wanted to work on your own G ,
Why not arrange to show that extraordinary G over a weekend and get some good advice as well

If your up to it I am sure we can get a few guys together to share info and tips
send me a pm and i will set something up

regards
Greg[/QUOTE]
 

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#25
I thought it best to first take it to Mercedes for a good check-up before I do anything and I was willing to pay for a first good service. I did however not expect the attached proposal/quote especially the R 69,000 for a replacement gearbox - see quote below:


The service & service related items (wear & tear) = R 8,600.00 inclusive of VAT
- Engine oil
- Oil filter
- Air filter
- Diesel filter
- Differential oils
- Brake fluid
- Antifreeze
- Wiper blades
- V-belt (fan belts)
- Head light bulb

“Jumping” out of 5th gear, Gearbox needs to be renewed, as there is no internal parts available, we suspect a syncro or selector fork = R 69,000.00 Including VAT.

Brakes: Inspected brake shoes, pads & discs, still in very good condition.

Suspension parts
- Shock absorbers rusted, especially at rear & slightly weak = R 12,868.50 Including VAT.
- Track rod & Drag link ball joints worn = R 8,854.75 including VAT (wheel alignment to be done after repairs)
- Wheel alignment = R 1,313.70 including VAT
- Steering box is leaking oil – requires a gasket kit = R 6,010.00 including VAT
- Both front axle housing joints leaking oil = R15,582.85 including VAT

Wiring repair at rear of vehicle * Electrical system check * = R 5,000.00 including VAT
- Replace coolant temperature sensor = R 380.35 including VAT (part only) Labour above.

Compression check = R 335.00 Inclusive of VAT
- Thermostat housing leaking = R 2,650.00 Including of VAT

Injectors to be removed & sent away for assessment (sublet repair)
- Removal & installation of injectors only = R 905.00 including VAT
- Estimate is subject to stripping.

Non- starting at times: Bad contact within ignition = R 3,300.00 including VAT
- Ignition to be renewed (tumbler with lock) & key
- The following documentations are required when ordering the above-mentioned.
- A certified copy of owner’s ID document with original stamp is required on the front.
- A certified copy of the vehicle’s registration certificate with original stamp is required on the front.


Report:
- Washer sprayers not working
- Reverse lights not working(suspect wiring repair as mentioned)
- Winch/cable faulty. Waiting on parts department to supply part numbers and prices
- Vehicle idling uneven on start up in the mornings: We need to renew the filters first (refer service), and assess the vehicle from there onwards.

Please note that most of the parts we need to order from Germany.


Any comments since I want to restore this as good as possible and I am willing to spend some reasonable money on the vehicle to get it back in mechanical sound condition. Not sure though if I should have all work done at the dealership. I also went to a gearbox specialist where he recommended not to go with the dealership, but first have it checked out independently.
Any advise.

Pieter

What suburb are you in , There are a few knowledgeable guys in Cape Town who owns G Wagons tho all only kinda do their own repairs but also always eager to help if you wanted to work on your own G ,
Why not arrange to show that extraordinary G over a weekend and get some good advice as well

If your up to it I am sure we can get a few guys together to share info and tips
send me a pm and i will set something up

regards
Greg
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Hi...
Here is my 2 cents worth of a response:- If you are mechanically inclined then the following should apply....

1. The service & service related items (wear & tear) ---> You can do all this your self....maybe difficult/tricky job is changing V-belts!
2. “Jumping” out of 5th gear,%Úrbox needs to be renewed ---> Check with independent g/b dealer first.
3. Suspension parts ---> track rod etc should be able to do this yourself!
shocks ----> check with independent mechanic
leaks ---->check with independent mechanic
4. Injectors to be removed & sent away for assessment (sublet repair)...
.....Hint hint....for all the other jobs

If the independent confirms these repairs...buy/order the parts from MB then get someone else to install them if not you!

As someone has already said..most people on the forum work on their own Gs
so as to know them and perhaps more importantly repair them correctly!!

Enjoy
 

munga

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#27
I thought it best to first take it to Mercedes for a good check-up before I do anything and I was willing to pay for a first good service. I did however not expect the attached proposal/quote especially the R 69,000 for a replacement gearbox - see quote below:


The service & service related items (wear & tear) = R 8,600.00 inclusive of VAT
- Engine oil
- Oil filter
- Air filter
- Diesel filter
- Differential oils
- Brake fluid
- Antifreeze
- Wiper blades
- V-belt (fan belts)
- Head light bulb

Parts bought will cost you in the region of < 2k to do this. If you are DIY inclined I recommend you do this on a weekend. Also give you a good mechanical introduction to your G. :D

Don't forget to change the transfer case oil.


“Jumping” out of 5th gear, Gearbox needs to be renewed, as there is no internal parts available, we suspect a syncro or selector fork = R 69,000.00 Including VAT.

Go for a gearbox repairer and get independent evaluation.

Brakes: Inspected brake shoes, pads & discs, still in very good condition.

Suspension parts
- Shock absorbers rusted, especially at rear & slightly weak = R 12,868.50 Including VAT. Budget < 3k per shock for a Sachs or Bilstien equivalent. Koni's are very good value and other forumites have had good service/performance from them. This is also DIY otherwise get a Speedy etc. to fit.
- Track rod & Drag link ball joints worn = R 8,854.75 including VAT (wheel alignment to be done after repairs)

This is about right for the MB parts.

- Wheel alignment = R 1,313.70 including VAT

TWT will do alignment for R400 or less.
- Steering box is leaking oil – requires a gasket kit = R 6,010.00 including VAT
- Both front axle housing joints leaking oil = R15,582.85 including VAT

There should be grease weeping from the wipe seals but I rebuilt my front axle for about 5k in parts including bearings on my 463. There is a special tool required and a fair bit of labour.

Wiring repair at rear of vehicle * Electrical system check * = R 5,000.00 including VAT
- Replace coolant temperature sensor = R 380.35 including VAT (part only) Labour above.

Compression check = R 335.00 Inclusive of VAT
- Thermostat housing leaking = R 2,650.00 Including of VAT

Injectors to be removed & sent away for assessment (sublet repair)
- Removal & installation of injectors only = R 905.00 including VAT
- Estimate is subject to stripping.

New Bosch injector tips can be had for less than R200 each at Midas. Best to take to someone like Briegel Diesel for a decent check-up. MB will probably send there anyhow.

Non- starting at times: Bad contact within ignition = R 3,300.00 including VAT
- Ignition to be renewed (tumbler with lock) & key
- The following documentations are required when ordering the above-mentioned.
- A certified copy of owner’s ID document with original stamp is required on the front.
- A certified copy of the vehicle’s registration certificate with original stamp is required on the front.


Report:
- Washer sprayers not working
- Reverse lights not working(suspect wiring repair as mentioned)
- Winch/cable faulty. Waiting on parts department to supply part numbers and prices
- Vehicle idling uneven on start up in the mornings: We need to renew the filters first (refer service), and assess the vehicle from there onwards.

Please note that most of the parts we need to order from Germany.


Any comments since I want to restore this as good as possible and I am willing to spend some reasonable money on the vehicle to get it back in mechanical sound condition. Not sure though if I should have all work done at the dealership. I also went to a gearbox specialist where he recommended not to go with the dealership, but first have it checked out independently.
Any advise.

Pieter

What suburb are you in , There are a few knowledgeable guys in Cape Town who owns G Wagons tho all only kinda do their own repairs but also always eager to help if you wanted to work on your own G ,
Why not arrange to show that extraordinary G over a weekend and get some good advice as well

If your up to it I am sure we can get a few guys together to share info and tips
send me a pm and i will set something up

regards
Greg
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460LeoG

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#29
Please do not exchange your gearbox or trade it in for a recon. I have seen too many G gearboxes go lost to oblivious parts places. :cry:

I would check a few things on the gearbox before doing the whole 'spiel'. Alignment of selector arms, condition of ball bearing selector lock inside side cover, fluid level.
Worth a try I reckon and nothing but a few hours to lose.

Speedy in town had the spec on LWB and SWB 460 and was +_R300 last time I went. Cant do it with play though.
 

Doug Nel

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#30
Hi Pieter

What suburb are you in , There are a few knowledgeable guys in Cape Town who owns G Wagons tho all only kinda do their own repairs but also always eager to help if you wanted to work on your own G ,
Why not arrange to show that extraordinary G over a weekend and get some good advice as well

If your up to it I am sure we can get a few guys together to share info and tips
send me a pm and i will set something up

regards
Greg
Hi Pieter

I live close to Greg. I also have a vehicle hoist. Why not pop around some time and put the G on the hoist? We can then give you a 2nd opinion.

Regards Doug
 

Dawie Louw

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#31
Hi Pieter

I live close to Greg. I also have a vehicle hoist. Why not pop around some time and put the G on the hoist? We can then give you a 2nd opinion.

Regards Doug
What a pity you don't live closer to me!

I have promised myself that in my next life (LOL!), one of the first tools I will buy, will be a two post hoist. When I built my house in 1969 I wanted to put in a pit but the city council would not allow it, Too many people had died from CO2 in a non-ventilated pit. Getting under cars and crawling out again, is getting more difficult as I get older!

Good luck with the fixing up of your G. Its all do'able. Like eating an elephant: One bite at a time!