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Front propshaft W460

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My front propshaft was rebuilt a few months ago due to wear on the UJs. The company who did it do not seem to have done a very good job and now want to modify the UJs as part of a fresh rebuild.

I have come to the conclusion that a new one will be better. Any ideas of availability and approximate price?

By the way, two things were noticed after removing the propshaft:
1. the car becomes as quiet as a limo.
2. the speedometer stops functioning correctly, undereading by a factor of many. From last time I know that all returns to normal when the drive shaft is refitted.
 

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Re: Front propshaft

The speedo is driven off the front drive system on a 460 / 461. You need to drive in "SA" if you remove the front propshaft.

Also not doing this apparently negatively affects oil circulation.
 

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Re: Front propshaft

Hi Tony
I woudl suggest you get a new one from DriveLine Technologies in Johannesburg. Got one from them several years ago and its still good. They know all the parameters for the shaft (they did then ) . An old shaft just cannot be repaired properly.
Pete
 

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Re: Front propshaft

Hi Tony,
I'm with Peter on this one. DT apparently made then years ago for MB. As he said they should still have all the details. I would also querie the Universals they will use to find out if they can be replaced. The older UJ's were pressed in and one could not replace them. In my 461 I could replace the UJ's not that I had to yet.:mrgreen:
Maybe there is someone with a new spare gathering dust on the forum?:)
ReGards,
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Re: Front propshaft

I am also in the market for a front propshaft for my 1981 G , the previous owner removed it due to a problem with the U Joints, he has passed on a section of the front prop, I have called up driveline technologies and they need the propshaft length from flange to flange , does anyone know the length or could someone with a short wheelbase possibly measure the front propshaft for me ,Thanks Greg
 

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Re: Front propshaft

Tony

There is a fair bit of discussion on the Forums regarding the front propshaft, an achilles heel. They are non-rebuildable - and even if the UJs were replaceable, there is still the sliding joint that is welded to the tube.

A new MB propshaft is dear, you could have a heavy-duty item made up, for maybe half that cost - I was quoted around US $ 1000.

Attached is the data the shop needs to fabricate, they should use a large-diameter sliding joint to minimise the effects of wear on balancing.

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Adrian
 

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Andrew

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Re: Front propshaft

And the offset is critical

Heads up if you do make your own - there are two different gearbox cross members just in front of the transfer case and if the propshaft dia. is too fat it will strike one of these cross members at maximum "up" of the front axle.

You can buy all the components to make your own shaft - old Sprinter (612) uses the same components (slip joint looks a little different). I successfully made my own centre one once and sent it in for balancing. It cost about R2K.

Another heads up - the discussion raged some time ago on P3 and there the guys said slip joint must definitely go on the transfer case side "Whoa I said - my 290 came from the factory with the slip joint near the diff.

Anyone else got an observation here?
 

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And the offset is critical

You can buy all the components to make your own shaft - old Sprinter (612) uses the same components (slip joint looks a little different). I successfully made my own centre one once and sent it in for balancing. It cost about R2K.


Anyone else got an observation here?
Did you use used Sprinter parts or new bought from MBSA parts? I don't think you can buy components for propshaft from MBSA ( unless its a Unimog or Truck )
Peter
 

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Andrew,

I'm not sure it would make a difference other than alowwing water to collect in the closed end if at the bottom.?:?:
 

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I phoned Driveshaft Parts to confirm after I posted here. They will send me a quote when they have found the UJ's but it looks to still be around R2k for the parts. I asked for Sprinter 612 parts with 8 x 100 flanges.

Peter these are not at all MB parts but aftermarket components from companies like Dana and Spicer etc.

Replaceable UJ's.