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    According to Das Grosse Buch Vom Unimog the model 411.115 was only and especially build for the Portuguese Military and extensively used in Angola and Moz in their days of rule there.

    Can anybody confirm this? Can you maybe trace some pictures of these?

    Have you seen these lying around on your Moz travels or remember seeing them in Angola during our travels there?

    Rare, very rare!

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    Re: 411.115

    Here is some info I got from Yahoo.



    Manufacturer: Daimler- Benz - Germany
    Crew: 1
    Maximum length: 3.57M - Width: 163 cm - Height: 2.1m
    Empty weight : 1750Kg . - Load capacity 1400Kg .
    Engine / Power / capabilities
    Traction system : Four -wheel drive
    Engine: OM636/VI-U 4cyl 1767cc Power: 34 hp
    Maximum speed : 53 km / h - Speed over rough terrain : 20 km / h
    Fuel tank: 70 Litres Maximum life: 600km


    Country: Portugal
    Location Description : Unimog 411 List all
    vehicles in this country
    Qty: Hi: 0 - Qty in service : 0
    Location: Withdrawn Operational :

    The 411 and its bigger brother 404, was a kind of ' workhorse 'and' stick -to -all- to- work 'in African settings where it was used operationally by Portugal. Since vehicle route, transporting food , mail and wounded by transporting troops , did everything. The same manufacturer had a specific version for Portugal , which he called UNIMOG 411 115 and was devoid of any luxuries and absolutely rustic, including in some cases a mechanical winch front .

    Serving the Portuguese army , each carrying up to 10 UNIMOG men on patrols (fortunately the Portuguese in the average height was less than the Portuguese average of today ) and its elevated position, and back to back, allowing the military to detect movement in nearby. In case of ambush , the crew had no kind of protection, based on this , the ability of the military jump as quickly as possible to the front ( of the vehicle to the ground ).

    This tactical advantage , however, was not so evident in northern Angola , and Guinea, where the rainforest made the progression into the jungle almost closed , a task extremely difficult, and where to be in a higher position had no significant advantages.

    With the end of the war , many vehicles were in Africa, and those who returned, or those emcontravam in Portugal, had suffered from the problem that many other equipment from the Portuguese Armed Forces . The weak performance of the UNIMOG 411 made him ineffective , because what could be done by a UNIMOG in Portugal could be done by any vehicle on the road he walked , and with a lower cost. Substitution of these vehicles began to be considered even in the 70s and entered the service Cournil some vehicles manufactured in Portugal by the company " Union Metal Mechanics , "and that became known as UMM, and later cars of the same type , but more modern .

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    Re: 411.115

    Hi

    There is one in Catembe (I beleve is a 115), and some spread all over Moz.

    The vehicle that replaced the Unimog, the UMM is this one...





    It is equiped with a Peugeot engine iqual to the used in the Peugeot 404 and 504. Lately they made a civil version with a turbo engine.

    But as you can see in the photos it is not an exact replacemnet for the Unimog, the replacement for the unimog was the Iveco's.

    Today you still find a lot of this UMM's in Portugal and they are mainly used for 4x4. Here in Maputo you also find some of this.
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    Re: 411.115

    Some pics





    The second one is now for sale... 10.000€

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    Re: 411.115

    This was the meeting at Werner Mullers farm in March
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    Re: 411.115

    Note that Johan Oosthuysen's Unimog has A winch attached. And a snorkel.
    It looks like the Portugeese army models is very basic.
    Otherwise exactly the same.
    No lift arms, wooden bak.
    I don't know where they fitted the spare wheel.

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    Re: 411.115

    Hi Bruno, Does this look familliar??
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    Re: 411.115

    Yes it does, seen several photos of them...

    My father unfortunately had to drive one in the 60's in Angola.

    And when you have to drive a car like that for obligation and for those motives you don't enjoy it...

    He says he was lucky he didn’t had to drive the ones with the machinegun...

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    Re: 411.115

    I was in The army in Rhodisia and on the SWA Border. Can you imagine the soldiers then without protection compared to the SWA war with Buffels.
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    Re: 411.115

    Your Father was very brave. In the Rhodesian War we used to use sandbags under the seats as land mine protection. Also no sides or shields. Even the guy's before me on the SWA border. 1975-1979

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